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total noobie

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Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« on: July 26, 2007, 03:20:50 PM »

Hey Tribe,

Well I finally bit the bullet and saved up enough nickels to buy my ZX, and I can't wait to play the thing.  In the meantime I am reading through my TD-20 instructions. 

Since I am a complete noobie to just about any kind of drumming, can anybody recommend any good entry level guides which could get me up to speed on some drumming basics such as counting and styles?  I am really worried that I will develop bad habits at the beginning which may slow my progress.  Some of the videos have helped, particularly David Kuckhermann"s one handed groove demonstration. 

I am sure it will make more sense once I am actually playing, but I want to develop god habits from the beginning.

TN 

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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 10:19:17 PM »

TN,

If there's one bit of advice I can give you, it is this:

LEARN HOW TO READ DRUUMSET MUSIC ON IT!!!  You will then have access to ENDLESS drum instruction materials.  Of course, the second you get the thing turned on, you'll already be making your own way...but get out there, find an open-minded teacher, have him/her buy a Zendrum too (!) and get to it!

I know that is not the answer you were expecting, but it's a start.

Jer
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total noobie

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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2007, 04:03:17 PM »

That is a good answer, I was not expecting some simple solution.  I figured that I would have to learn how to read drumset music.  What do you mean by saying read music on it?  I am confused about the "on it" part.  Do you mean learn to read drumset music in general and then extrapolate that to my pad configuration? 

Somebody should write a zendrum for dummies book.  ;D 

TN
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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 07:39:47 PM »

Somebody should write a zendrum for dummies book.  ;D 

The immediate problem is that there are infinite ways to play it.  Even different styles of music lend themselves to different techniques.
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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 10:02:51 PM »

The immediate problem is that there are infinite ways to play it. Even different styles of music lend themselves to different techniques.
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That is one of the most appealing things about it.  I love the fact that it is all up to your creativity and individuality. The other would be the ability to play through headphones, which is very important to this introvert.     

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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2007, 09:43:19 AM »


Welcome noobie - we've all been newbies.  Strongly second the suggestion to find a teacher - be sure and find one who loves the same kind of music you do and whose lessons are fun, whose "homework" is stuff that feels good to do.  Also second learning to read music. 

Also suggest that you practice with the volume UP on whatever amp/headphones you're using.  Don't  practice loud - practice at the right volume while the amp is turned up.  Practicing with the volume up has been important to me to really get the dynamic range (soft to loud) of the Zendrum.   Turn the volume up, then practice with a soft touch on the Zen, so you can pull out a louder roll or accent or really thunder when you need to.    So practice with the volume turned up, but don't play at max volume (hope this is clear).

Protect your ears.  Don't subject yourself to long periods of sustained loud anything - music or noise.  Get good advice on this.    I remember the day many years ago when I emerged from a 3 hour practice session with my ears ringing.  They're still ringing.  Its a nuisance (and I've had significant high frequency roll off).
 
There's my $0.02.  Rock on!

peace & harmony

Mark



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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2007, 10:04:55 AM »

Hello out there tribal brothers & sisters,

one more thought: I think THERE IS a market out there for a book on e-percussion, about drums & rhythm in the electronic age - with chapters on beatmaking & beatmakers, drum recording, sampling, the instruments (the Zen and others), musicians who have used/are using e-percussion, software, playing live, sound modules (they're going obsolete, would be good to collect up some info somewhere), what's coming.  Obviously the area is blooming and changing fast, but such a book could document the past & present & could be useful in future.  Audience would be drummers and other musicians, composers, sound people, and also producers, gear porn addicts, and the generally curious.

dropping a hint to our tribal elders

peace & harmony everywhere

Mark


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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2007, 02:10:53 PM »

I'm tagging on to this thread since I'm in a similar situation as the original poster. My Zendrum is ordered, even though my percussion background is almost non-existent. I teach wind instruments (and lead wind bands) so I know how to read music, and I think I have a pretty good rhythm sense (at least above average for a wind instrumentalist).

Having a teacher is of course the best advice. I may ask my percussion colleague for help (but I'd like to not advertise my drumming intentions too much in the beginning).

Listening to music is the other obvious answer. I'm almost surprised not to see it suggested yet - maybe it's too obvious?

But if anyone can give suggestions on literature (free online, or paid for on paper) that'd be helpful, I'd appreciate it. Which of those "ENDLESS drum instruction materials" are good? Particularly to help with getting a good feel for what's authentic in various styles. It's good to know the rules before I break them (and break them I will).

Edit: I only noticed this thread after posting. Still, any additional suggestions are welcome!
« Last Edit: July 29, 2007, 02:15:26 PM by Trumgottist »
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total noobie

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Re: Banging on my Zendrum like a chimpanzee
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2007, 04:09:15 PM »

I found a good online source for free drum lessons at www.onlinedrummer.com

Since I am way too busy these days for formal private instruction, this site has really helped me understand some of the basics as I slowly progress with my Zendrum.  Including learning to read drum music.

I hope this helps. 

Regards,
TN
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