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 on: October 06, 2013, 09:09:53 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by DrumWagon
Just the clarify, my comments above meant to say that "note off" does not mean "cut off all audio".  Roland does seem to interpret the MIDI spec in that fashion, but strictly speaking it means to stop processing all note on/off messages.  If the audio engine is still processing a sound I think it's correct to let the tails continue as it's less abrupt.

If you're truly going for that effect though, you might consider using the CC as automation in your DAW or host application, to toggle a mute function.

Just curious though, what is your goal with all this?

 on: October 06, 2013, 06:49:18 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by JimmyTheSaint
Yes, for now cut off all active sounds. I tried my first plan: programming the switch to CC 64 and mapping that to panic in BFD's automation section. BFD's midi inspector verifies correctness, but I'm still not getting note off action. I also tried all three automation modes (continuous, toggle, and switch).

 on: October 06, 2013, 06:31:02 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by DrumWagon
Some modules (Roland for instance) cut off all the sounds when CC#123 is received.  I don't believe that's the case for BFD, but John Emrich would probably be the final word on that.  Usually #123 just means stop processing incoming note data for a short period of time.

I use BFD's choke articulations to accomplish cymbal chokes, but it sounds like you want to just abruptly cut off 'all' active sounds?

 on: October 06, 2013, 06:18:27 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by JimmyTheSaint
Thanks. I was misreading the 5-sided graphic as corresponding to the momentary switch. Also, I expected the switch to be in the center of those three at the bottom, surrounded by the two jacks. I programmed the nested concentric circles as recommended. It blinks now in ZenEdit, and I verify in BFD that it receives "CC [123], Val [000], Ch [10]," but I'm not getting any note off action. The hihat continues to ring out. I've un-mapped BFD's panic function. Can you tell me what I'm missing now? For now, I'd rather use my otherwise unused momentary switch than dedicate triggers to choke.

 on: October 06, 2013, 05:29:24 PM 
Started by Slyder - Last post by Slyder
Let me know how you make out with the UNO.
I had problems with the driver downloads.

 on: October 06, 2013, 12:26:40 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by DrumWagon
The sustain button should not disappear if 'show unused items' is disabled.
This suggests you don't have that control configured properly or are not using the correct on-screen control.

When properly configured, the sustain button will render as a round button with nested concentric circles and will have 'CC 1' watermarked along the bottom.
On the 'Advanced' trigger settings tab, 'MIDI Message' will show 'Control Change'.  On the 'Calibration' tab, Min will be 0 and Max will be 7.  The polarity is not inverted and the response curve is zero.
These are the DEFAULT settings for a new project.  You can create a new project to confirm this and to compare to your own settings.  Please double check your settings and that you are correctly identifying 'CC 1' as that is the momentary switch.

Regarding BFD, by default the 'all notes off' (so-called panic) CC message is #123.  This is the standard message number for that feature and there is no need to remap it to #64.  It's more proper to change the CC number emitted by your momentary switch to be #123.

Personally I don't use 'all notes off' to choke as I don't find that to sound realistic.  I instead use the choke articulations for particular cymbals slots.  That's a bit more complicated however and involves customizing your keymap, converting CC messages to note on/off and creating a repeater if there is more than one cymbal you intend to make chokeable.

 on: October 06, 2013, 05:46:40 AM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by JimmyTheSaint
I want to have my sustain button trigger BFD's panic function to use as a choke just as John Emrich suggests in one of his videos. As I read the manual, it says the sustain button can put out CC 64. So in ZenEdit, I set the button's value to "sustain" (64), set its channel to 10 like all my other triggers, verify that its MIDI message is "control change," and upload the SysEx, but I still can't detect any MIDI information happening as a result of pressing my sustain button. When I press it, ZenEdit doesn't register anything, and neither does BFD's MIDI inspector. In fact, the sustain button only shows in ZenEdit when I select "Show unused items," even after programming it.  I've tried toggling its polarity, but that makes no difference. I think I know what to do on the BFD side (drop the "Panic" parameter onto CC 64 on the automation page),  but I need to verify what's coming out of the sustain button. What am I missing here?

 on: October 02, 2013, 04:36:57 AM 
Started by MustangMick - Last post by john emrich
Hi Mick,

The official word is posted on the FX website.  It is always best to have a separate drive for the data..... That said, I have been using my internal, 7200 rpm drive on my 15" MBP for my BFD2 gigging kit for a couple of years with no problems.  I only keep the gig data on the computer.  It always depends on the computer.

If you are going to play live with BFD3, you may be Ok.  You can still select 16bit mode for the engine.  With 64 kit pieces you should be able to do an entire gig with one big preset!  Use patches on the Zendrum to trigger the different instruments in the 64.

So.... It is worth a try......

 on: October 01, 2013, 04:05:04 PM 
Started by MustangMick - Last post by MustangMick
Hi John,
One other quick question.
With the availability of SSD Drives now is having your OS and BFD3 Samples on the same drive now a workable solution? Rather than needing a seperate External drive for the samples?

Considering adding a new SSD Harddrive to my Macbook Pro.


 on: October 01, 2013, 01:46:57 PM 
Started by MustangMick - Last post by bluesapostle2
Ordered it today!! It looks much improved!

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