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 on: February 16, 2014, 02:22:27 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by randtor
Having read through all this, and taking my other post into account,  I am wondering if the way to do this is add a cymbal choke signal to each cymbal, through Zenedit, as the last slot in the 4 slots we can use for each pad. If the crossfade setting is at 124 or so for the last slot, perhaps when striking the cymbal hard, it will cause it to choke?? Then we don't need to even worry about the sustain/choke button on the back.... and that way each cymbal can have an individual choke... I'll try this later tonight!

 on: February 16, 2014, 01:36:15 PM 
Started by randtor - Last post by randtor
This is *very* specific to my environment, but it works quite well.  http://nebiru.com/drumWagon/page.cfm/ReaperJS

I use BFD3 straight to the ZD without any DAW's or other programs. I guess your midi filter plugin is a part of your program then. I don't want a 'poor man's choke', I still want the drums and such to be ringing out when I choke a cymbal. I'll keep plugging away, there has to be a solution, I just have to either find it or invent it! Thanks DW.

 on: February 16, 2014, 06:23:41 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by JimmyTheSaint
Yes, I want to cut off all sounds--a poor man's choke.

 on: February 16, 2014, 02:21:24 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by DrumWagon
Panic isn't the same as 'choke', but yeah, that would be another way to go.  Panic will cut off all sounds, while the choke articulation is a smoother cut off and only affects the cymbals tied to it.

 on: February 16, 2014, 01:01:04 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by JimmyTheSaint
I asked a similar question at Fxpansion's forum here:


because I wanted to use the ZenDrum's momentary switch for BFD2's panic! function as a kind of choke. That forum's quite active, but after four months, there's still no response. Maybe someone here has an idea?

 on: February 15, 2014, 06:48:50 PM 
Started by randtor - Last post by DrumWagon
I can't speak for other DAWs, but Reaper allows you to create rudimentary plugins using a variant of JavaScript.  I used this to build one that can convert CC messages into Note ON messages.

This is *very* specific to my environment, but it works quite well.  http://nebiru.com/drumWagon/page.cfm/ReaperJS

I can only imagine that similar MIDI filters must exist for other DAWs by this point, but your mileage may vary.

 on: February 15, 2014, 12:10:27 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by randtor
I did find the "auto" function and was able to set up the volume knob using this function, the learn mode and clicking on the master gain knob top right of the screen. Once I found and followed the directions in the manual, it was pretty simple to do and the volume knob is now functional, thanks!

So I have everything working now except the choke button.

I still am unsure of exactly what a MIDI filter plug in really is, and unfortunately Google has not helped :-).


 on: February 13, 2014, 11:01:07 PM 
Started by randtor - Last post by randtor
Well, #2: I was able to get the hihat set up, using the manual, reading and testing, fine tuning and finally voila! I hit the right combination, and unlocked the secrets hidden within (sounds like "Zelda", lol!). I now have variable shank, variable tip, and both with a foot chick and a splash when releasing the foot pedal quickly. The only minor aggravation is the delayed response in the opening of the hat when I lift my foot up from the pedal. I'm sure there is a way to tweak that, and I will explore and test further... the 'preferences' area sounds promising!
#3 - How do you set that up thru midi learn? I can see where the volume control has a MIDI # (cc7) and I can see the value change (in the MIDI log) as it should. I am not certain how to tie it in with the volume control on the ZD. Any direction you can give me?
#4. Choke is not going to work unless I do what you are doing, DW, ie: a MIDI filter plug in.. but I don't know what that is!! Can you explain? Thanks DW.

 on: February 12, 2014, 05:26:38 PM 
Started by randtor - Last post by randtor
#2: I have read that 3-4 times, I guess I still am not doing it correctly. I will try again, at least I know the answer is in there somewhere! ;D

#3: Ahah! I will try that through the MIDI learn feature.

#4: **Gark!**  :-[ 'scuse me while I choke... ok, what the heck is a "MIDI filter plugin", lol!

Isn't it strange that it worked with the Roland TD20, and it won't work with BFD3? It must have something to do with one being a synthesized signal, and the other a recorded sample I suppose. Ah well, I took the plunge with BFD3, so I have to keep at it!

Thanks Darin.... I'll post results when I get a minute to try this all out , hopefully later tonight.

 on: February 12, 2014, 11:54:34 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by DrumWagon
For #2, see "Variable hihat control" here:

For #3, I have my volume knob connected to the master fader via the MIDI learn feature.

For #4, there are various ways to accomplish this.  Personally I use a MIDI filter plugin to convert the button CC to a Note On message.  The note message is mapped to a choke articulation within my key map.


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