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 31 
 on: February 17, 2014, 06:47:54 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by randtor
Found a way to do this using Zenedit, BFD3 straight into the Zendrum. You can see my solution in the thread titled "Map sustain switch to BFD automation"...... in this same area of the forum.
Essentially the solution for  me is this:
I used Zenedit, went to basic settings for each trigger, opened each cymbal crossfade function up so I had 4 choices and made the last choice a cymbal choke for each cymbal individually. I set the last crossfade strike to work beyond 115. So I can now strike a cymbal with authority and it rings out pretty well, and if I strike it very firmly again, it chokes. That was the function I wanted.
Rand

 32 
 on: February 17, 2014, 06:43:05 AM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by randtor
John, what you are instructing is for making the sustain/choke switch into all off, as a 'panic' button, is that right? Or is that what you use for a cymbal choke?
I did try my thought last night, and it seemed to work. I used Zenedit, went to basic settings for each trigger, opened each cymbal crossfade function up so I had 4 choices and made the last choice a cymbal choke for each cymbal individually. I set the last crossfade strike to work beyond 115. So I can now strike a cymbal with authority and it rings out pretty well, and if I strike it very firmly again, it chokes. That was the function I wanted. I will try the settings you suggested for the sustain button, a panic button does seem to be worth having as well. Thanks!
Rand

 33 
 on: February 16, 2014, 11:43:03 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by john emrich
Just now seeing this.  I will use BFD2 for this example since you didn't specify.  At the bottom of the GUI you will see the learn button.  All you do is press it and you will see a lot of items turn green.  Click on the panic button, push the sustain button and you will see a value show up.  Click learn again to turn off the green indicators and you are good to go.  Then you save the MIDI Map and automation.

It won't matter what CC you are using.  I used 64 when I did mine because we don't use "hold" as a function.

Good luck.

John

 34 
 on: February 16, 2014, 02:22:27 PM 
Started by JimmyTheSaint - Last post by randtor
Having read through all this, and taking my other post into account,  I am wondering if the way to do this is add a cymbal choke signal to each cymbal, through Zenedit, as the last slot in the 4 slots we can use for each pad. If the crossfade setting is at 124 or so for the last slot, perhaps when striking the cymbal hard, it will cause it to choke?? Then we don't need to even worry about the sustain/choke button on the back.... and that way each cymbal can have an individual choke... I'll try this later tonight!

 35 
 on: February 16, 2014, 01:36:15 PM 
Started by randtor - Last post by randtor
This is *very* specific to my environment, but it works quite well.  http://nebiru.com/drumWagon/page.cfm/ReaperJS

I use BFD3 straight to the ZD without any DAW's or other programs. I guess your midi filter plugin is a part of your program then. I don't want a 'poor man's choke', I still want the drums and such to be ringing out when I choke a cymbal. I'll keep plugging away, there has to be a solution, I just have to either find it or invent it! Thanks DW.

 36 
 on: February 16, 2014, 06:23:41 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by JimmyTheSaint
Yes, I want to cut off all sounds--a poor man's choke.

 37 
 on: February 16, 2014, 02:21:24 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by DrumWagon
Panic isn't the same as 'choke', but yeah, that would be another way to go.  Panic will cut off all sounds, while the choke articulation is a smoother cut off and only affects the cymbals tied to it.

 38 
 on: February 16, 2014, 01:01:04 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by JimmyTheSaint
I asked a similar question at Fxpansion's forum here:

http://www.fxpansion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7579484

because I wanted to use the ZenDrum's momentary switch for BFD2's panic! function as a kind of choke. That forum's quite active, but after four months, there's still no response. Maybe someone here has an idea?


 39 
 on: February 15, 2014, 06:48:50 PM 
Started by randtor - Last post by DrumWagon
I can't speak for other DAWs, but Reaper allows you to create rudimentary plugins using a variant of JavaScript.  I used this to build one that can convert CC messages into Note ON messages.

This is *very* specific to my environment, but it works quite well.  http://nebiru.com/drumWagon/page.cfm/ReaperJS

I can only imagine that similar MIDI filters must exist for other DAWs by this point, but your mileage may vary.

 40 
 on: February 15, 2014, 12:10:27 AM 
Started by randtor - Last post by randtor
Update:
I did find the "auto" function and was able to set up the volume knob using this function, the learn mode and clicking on the master gain knob top right of the screen. Once I found and followed the directions in the manual, it was pretty simple to do and the volume knob is now functional, thanks!

So I have everything working now except the choke button.

I still am unsure of exactly what a MIDI filter plug in really is, and unfortunately Google has not helped :-).

Rand

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