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ZenChat / Re: Confusion on the new integrated wireless
« on: February 20, 2010, 11:14:02 AM »
So David, this fix for the TD-20 -- is this something that we can implement "off-site" as it were, or would it necessitate sending our instruments back to the factory?

Tech Help / Re: swishing brush sound on a td-20
« on: February 18, 2010, 06:47:08 PM »
The expansion isn't needed to use the brush features I pointed out -- they are all detailed in the original TD-20 manual, albeit in usual 'Roland speak'.  I was only lamenting that they didn't expand on the brush options within the expansion card.

I'm very interested to see what the Alesis DM10 is going to bring to the table.

ZenChat / Re: Brushes on the Zendrum
« on: February 12, 2010, 06:22:00 PM »
Sorry, I left out one crucial bit that may not be immediately obvious -- you need to enable "brush mode" on the kit before #23 will work.

From the main kit screen, hit F2 (func) then F3 (brush) and make sure the value is ON.   Now you should be hear a sweep when you hit a trigger that is set to note #23.  You'll need to have either snare drum #109 or #111 loaded up for it work though as those are the only two brushed snares.  I wished they would have added more brushed toms and snares to the expansion card, but really those two are pretty flexible once you start tweaking them.  Having only one brushed ride is the bigger challenge  :(

Personally I have a separate user setup on my Zen for use with brushes.  That setup uses more of the cymbal bows than my normal "sticks" setup does, and incorporates other articulations such as #23 (sweep) and #44 (hh foot) and also has more light percussion.

ZenChat / Re: Brushes on the Zendrum
« on: February 09, 2010, 10:46:19 PM »
Thumper, are you using note #23 for the sweep?  That in conjunction with instruments #109-112 are the key to great brush sounds on the TD-20.

I don't have a Zendrum, but... / Re: Some questions about wireless
« on: February 06, 2010, 11:49:07 AM »
In addition to Roland, it appear some M-Audio equipment can no longer be used when wired directly.   Neither my Axiom-25 nor my Midisport Uno are functioning.  :-\

I don't have a Zendrum, but... / Re: Some questions about wireless
« on: February 01, 2010, 05:13:22 PM »
The wireless option is *very* cool.  I can't imagine ever going back to being wired  ;D

Nothing sticks out of the Zendrum, it's all internal.  A single 9-volt powers everything.  Here's a pic, note that I had to give up a pedal/trigger jack in order to fit the battery box:

I've personally been using rechargeable 9-volts with great success.  I've never gone longer that 3 continuous hours with one so I can't say how long they really last, but they last long enough.  I always charge it up fully the night before and I also carry a spare alkaline for emergencies.

The only downside I've encountered so far is that I can no longer use a wired connection to my TD-20.  Wireless to it works fine, and wired connections do work if I go THRU another device first, but direct wired hookups no longer work.  My Alesis, E-MU and various firewire interfaces all still work fine when connected directly though, so must be some sorta handshake error with the Roland unit.

ZenChat / Re: cymbal choke
« on: January 25, 2010, 10:19:29 PM »
I was able to finally get cymbal choking to work with a TD-20.  It's not documented anywhere within their MIDI implementation, but they do respond to CC#123 (all notes off).  Simply assign your momentary switch to note #123 and you now have a panic switch.  Press it after hitting a cymbal and you have a fairly passable choke effect.  Is it perfect?  No.  Is it better than nothing?  You bet!   :)

I don't recall if the 3.0 boards allowed you to reassign the note number for the momentary switch or not, so I'm not sure if this works only for the Z4.

By the way, this technique will also probably work for any Roland module, not just the TD-20.  It also functions the same no matter which way you have the polarity set.

ZenChat / Re: Are there any plans/interest to make foot Zendrums?
« on: January 23, 2010, 10:33:30 PM »
Sure, just place your Zendrum on the floor, take off your shoes and go to town!    ;D

ZenChat / Re: ZX Stand
« on: January 22, 2010, 03:46:43 PM »
There is of course Mr. Emrich's classic approach:

For myself I picked up a $10 job locally (Ultimate Support Jamstand) and bent the two bottom prongs inward until they could comfortably cradle my ZX.  I then removed the 'rubber band' from the top portion and placed it on the bottom.  Works a treat, but a really would prefer something that could fold up more.  Here is the stand that I used:

Curious if any of those ultra-portable "pop-up" stands could work.  Or perhaps a violin stand?

ZenChat / Re: Alesis DM10 Pro Kit
« on: January 20, 2010, 10:43:58 PM »
Jaay, Pearl just licensed the DM10 from Alesis and rebranded it.  Same story with the cymbals (they're Smarttriggers).  About the only R&D it appears they did is with the pads -- they retrofit existing acoustic shells and actually look pretty intriguing.

The video on this page details these features a bit more:

Overall the module sounds a little dated to me, but near the end of that video they showcase an imported Toontrack kit, which is *very* nice to my ears.

David, it looks like you can only import one VST-based kit at a time, i.e all 128MB is taken up by ONE kit.  Slightly less than flexible in that case :/  ... and even still the samples would need to be highly compressed and dithered.  Still, does sound pretty good on that video.

I really feel we're on the cusp of big changes here with modules.  The limiting factor is really just the cost of flash ram.  Now that SSDs are becoming mainstream though, those prices are starting to plummet.  It probably won't be too long before 64 or 128GB of ram in a stand-alone module will become standard fare.  Given the long development cycles of these machines, if I were Roland/Alesis/DDrum/Yamaha/etc, then that's the sorta specs I'd be targeting with my R&D right now, safely assuming the costs would come down in a year or two.

ZenChat / Re: Alesis DM10 Pro Kit
« on: January 20, 2010, 06:06:42 PM »
You should totally post that syx file!   :)

Lately I've been running back to my TD-20 when I need to use a stand-alone module.  How would you compare the stock sounds on the DM10?  Are they in the same league?

ZenChat / Re: Alesis DM10 Pro Kit
« on: January 20, 2010, 12:50:14 PM »
Geosphere, regarding importing samples, it looks like there might soon be a backdoor of sorts via Pearl's R.E.D. Box, which appears to be just a rebranded DM10.  Pearl has apparently partnered with various VST makers and is in the process of building a storefront for downloading sample packs:  http://www.redboxsoundshop.com/

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't also a way to inject your own samples into those packs.  A bit more on this here:  http://www.hellfiredrums.com/archives/799

Tech Help / Re: ZENdrum sending pitch bend to BFD2-can't get it to stop
« on: January 18, 2010, 12:31:11 PM »
Have you checked what CC value your momentary switch is set to?

ZenChat / Re: Alesis DM10 Pro Kit
« on: January 15, 2010, 09:17:07 AM »
Heh, beat me to it.  Just got the email from Alesis.

I also notice Best Buy of all people is going to be a distributor.  Opens up the possibility of finding a super coupon deal.  Also makes it easier to try it out, assuming they'll have one on the floor.

Now if only I could stand going into a Best Buy  ::)

ZenChat / Re: Enabling cymbal choking in BFD/BFD2
« on: January 14, 2010, 11:55:58 AM »
That's an interesting unit.  Have you played with one yet?  Specifically with BFD2?  The specs on it seem a little underpowered.

Also I worry about the ambient noise of a 1u enclosure.  These appear to essentially be blade servers with an e-mu sound card slapped on.  Those tiny little case fans likely spin like bats outta hell.

Overall looks like a pretty solid solution though.  Much more affordable than a Receptor2, and probably better than whatever pricing the V-Rack will emerge with.

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