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Tech Help / Re: BFD3, pedals, choke, volume knob
« on: February 16, 2014, 02:21:24 AM »
Panic isn't the same as 'choke', but yeah, that would be another way to go.  Panic will cut off all sounds, while the choke articulation is a smoother cut off and only affects the cymbals tied to it.

Tech Help / Re: BFD3, pedals, choke, volume knob
« on: February 15, 2014, 06:48:50 PM »
I can't speak for other DAWs, but Reaper allows you to create rudimentary plugins using a variant of JavaScript.  I used this to build one that can convert CC messages into Note ON messages.

This is *very* specific to my environment, but it works quite well.  http://nebiru.com/drumWagon/page.cfm/ReaperJS

I can only imagine that similar MIDI filters must exist for other DAWs by this point, but your mileage may vary.

Tech Help / Re: BFD3, pedals, choke, volume knob
« on: February 12, 2014, 11:54:34 AM »
For #2, see "Variable hihat control" here:

For #3, I have my volume knob connected to the master fader via the MIDI learn feature.

For #4, there are various ways to accomplish this.  Personally I use a MIDI filter plugin to convert the button CC to a Note On message.  The note message is mapped to a choke articulation within my key map.


ZenChat / Re: tiny hardware sample player?
« on: January 29, 2014, 10:30:19 AM »
Yes, I'm afraid that a unit with everything you're describing simply does not exist.  There are small and cheap units and there are units that can run VSTs or allow loading of samples but those are never cheap and rarely all that small.
Building new Zendrum rigs has always had a high level of give and take ;)

ZenChat / Re: tiny hardware sample player?
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:25:20 PM »
I highly doubt it supports more than 2, possibly 4 total samples per setup.  That unit is designed to augment a set with only two inputs and would not be suitable for Zendrum.

There are many small drum machines out there with the ability to be powered by batteries if that's what you're after.

ZenChat / Re: tiny hardware sample player?
« on: January 25, 2014, 11:39:44 AM »
The smallest modern (VST based) one I'm aware of is the V-Machine.

There are of course a lot of small drum machines out there still as well, such as the Alesis SR series, Boss DR, Yamaha RX, Korg etc.  Though obviously these all sound dated.

It's quite a bit larger than the V-Machine but I've always thought the Alesis DM-Dock showed a lot of promise too, if only for the ability to change kits and parameters on the fly.


ZenChat / Re: ZenDrum mini?
« on: January 22, 2014, 12:30:55 AM »
Something like the Zap or Zap^2? 

Tech Help / Re: Power switch replacement
« on: December 06, 2013, 02:41:52 PM »
Tell me about it.  I feel guilty but really haven't used my wireless for close to a year now.  Even though the latency is *very* small, it still is present and I feel more connected to the instrument without it.

ZenChat / Re: Hi-hats in the mix
« on: November 16, 2013, 12:39:37 PM »
This could be the beginning of your journey to the dark side :)

I still recall the day a few years back that I finally got sick of the Roland sounds.  At first it was the snares, then it was the crashes and finally it was the toms.  There are still some percussion sounds of Roland that I like (and use samples of), but once I went through the initial pain of switching to BFD I never looked back.

Seeing as how you're still using the Z3 though, I presume investing more money in your rig is not an option and you'll want to make do with your TD-9 for a while longer.  One trick I used to do with my TD-20 was to assign different articulations to each hand.  I have a closed and an open HH trigger on each side of my Zendrum.  My right hand would use the tight closed bow sound (42 on the TD-9) and the open edge (26) while my left would use the closed edge (22) and open bow (46).  This gave me more variation and expressive abilities.
I still do essentially the same thing in BFD, however I use the velocity layer capabilities of the Z4 and ZenEdit to change articulations based on how hard or soft I'm striking.

Anyway, I hope that might give you some ideas for squeezing extra dynamics and expressiveness from your rig.

ZenChat / Re: playing two at the same time?
« on: October 29, 2013, 10:14:41 AM »
Pretty sure that was just an Alesis D4.

Tech Help / Re: map sustain switch to BFD automation?
« on: October 06, 2013, 09:34:12 PM »
I see.  Well, I can tell you how I have mine setup, but it's very specific to my DAW of choice, Reaper.

One of the many cool things about Reaper is that you can develop your own filters using a variant of ECMAScript.  When I first switched over to BFD2, I wrote a small filter that converts CCs over to Note messages.  This allows me to effectively remap CC#64 over to Note#127, which I've then mapped within BFD to a cymbal choke group.

Again, that's very specific to my own needs, but it might give you some ideas.

BTW, that filter I wrote is also available here, should anyone also be using Reaper: http://nebiru.com/drumWagon/page.cfm/ReaperJS


Tech Help / Re: map sustain switch to BFD automation?
« on: October 06, 2013, 09:09:53 PM »
Just the clarify, my comments above meant to say that "note off" does not mean "cut off all audio".  Roland does seem to interpret the MIDI spec in that fashion, but strictly speaking it means to stop processing all note on/off messages.  If the audio engine is still processing a sound I think it's correct to let the tails continue as it's less abrupt.

If you're truly going for that effect though, you might consider using the CC as automation in your DAW or host application, to toggle a mute function.

Just curious though, what is your goal with all this?

Tech Help / Re: map sustain switch to BFD automation?
« on: October 06, 2013, 06:31:02 PM »
Some modules (Roland for instance) cut off all the sounds when CC#123 is received.  I don't believe that's the case for BFD, but John Emrich would probably be the final word on that.  Usually #123 just means stop processing incoming note data for a short period of time.

I use BFD's choke articulations to accomplish cymbal chokes, but it sounds like you want to just abruptly cut off 'all' active sounds?

Tech Help / Re: map sustain switch to BFD automation?
« on: October 06, 2013, 12:26:40 PM »
The sustain button should not disappear if 'show unused items' is disabled.
This suggests you don't have that control configured properly or are not using the correct on-screen control.

When properly configured, the sustain button will render as a round button with nested concentric circles and will have 'CC 1' watermarked along the bottom.
On the 'Advanced' trigger settings tab, 'MIDI Message' will show 'Control Change'.  On the 'Calibration' tab, Min will be 0 and Max will be 7.  The polarity is not inverted and the response curve is zero.
These are the DEFAULT settings for a new project.  You can create a new project to confirm this and to compare to your own settings.  Please double check your settings and that you are correctly identifying 'CC 1' as that is the momentary switch.

Regarding BFD, by default the 'all notes off' (so-called panic) CC message is #123.  This is the standard message number for that feature and there is no need to remap it to #64.  It's more proper to change the CC number emitted by your momentary switch to be #123.

Personally I don't use 'all notes off' to choke as I don't find that to sound realistic.  I instead use the choke articulations for particular cymbals slots.  That's a bit more complicated however and involves customizing your keymap, converting CC messages to note on/off and creating a repeater if there is more than one cymbal you intend to make chokeable.

ZenChat / Re: BFD3 - Number of available Drum slots
« on: September 30, 2013, 11:38:48 PM »
Btw, I'm downloading it right now.. more soon :)

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