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Tech Help / Re: ZDLT and RMX
« on: February 07, 2007, 05:09:37 AM »
Hey Alexei, I got a response from Eric Persing @ Spectrasonics.
Unfortunately, it looks like a chip mod will have to be created by us to fix this issue.
This is back on the drawing board for our engineer to create.
Here are Eric's comments...

[Yeah...the sustain pedal trick won't work with RMX and the Zendrum.

The notes that the Zendrum outputs are actually too short for RMX to respond to. Our solution that we did for the NAMM show was an extremely elaborate Logic Environment that lengthened the MIDI note data on real-time input. Unfortunately, it's not a fix that the average user could handle....pretty tricky to set-up and use.

You had mentioned last year that you were considering adding an adjustable gate time update to the Zendrum software...what's happening with that? That update would solve the RMX problem for sure. All us RMX users would be extremely grateful for that update! :-)

All the best,

Eric Persing
Creative Director


ZenChat / Re: Assigning a Kick Sound to Cymbal TD-12 / 20
« on: February 07, 2007, 04:55:30 AM »
Thank you Brother Mike!

On the Alesis DMPro, you just toggle "Drum Link" to accomplish the same effect, and use a MIDI note number that's not being triggered for the extra sound.

Good tip!

Tech Help / Re: ZDLT and RMX
« on: February 05, 2007, 08:03:47 AM »
Hey Alexei!
Welcome to the Tribe!

I think I know what is happening...
Reverse the polarity of the sustain button (PL) function, from 0 to 1.
That will let the sonic envelopes play through and be heard.
Hope this helps,

Tech Help / Help with BFD
« on: February 02, 2007, 05:15:40 AM »
I'm forwarding up a post from the old Yahoo forum for a friend who asked about BFD programming issues. Some of you guys have much more face time with BFD than I do, so step up and speak the truth! I suggested going out of the Zendrum into the Kat so the pedals would still work, but he only wants to haul around the Zendrum (imagine THAT!)
Thank you all for the knowledge! 109

I just got this awesome tool (zendrum) and already own BFD. I 'm trying to
figure out how to get the high hat notes to play by just assigning
notes to pads without using a continuous controller like the hatpedal
I use with my drumkat. I have assigned the different hit types to
different pads but BFD seems to think the pedal is closed and stuck
there even though I don't have one plugged in. I undefined controller
004 to (none). All notes still sound closed not variably open to the
various notes. It may not be possible to use BFD without a continuous
hit hat controller. I don't know. Can anyone help me with this one?


Tech Help / Re: MIDI set up continued
« on: February 02, 2007, 05:01:56 AM »
Hey Weeksville,
Yes, the MIDI channel per trigger is on the table for the new rev. chip.
No clue yet when we'll see it released, but I hope to have a working prototype soon!
Go Chris, GO!!!

ZenChat / Re: Zendrum at NAMM
« on: January 21, 2007, 08:49:59 AM »
Love the quote in your signature! That's IT.
Thanks for the roving reporting.

ZenChat / Re: Hello from India!
« on: January 20, 2007, 07:21:29 AM »
Hey Jim,

We will look forward to the next installment about your adventures out there in the world!


Music / Re: "The Cummings Report"
« on: January 20, 2007, 07:17:55 AM »
Hey Bill,

What a cool kid! And his old man's not so bad himself!
Now introduce him to Victor Wooten and let's see what happens.
Do more stuff and post it!


ZenChat / Re: New gig
« on: January 20, 2007, 07:11:00 AM »
Hey Steve,

Thanks for trying to do some real GOOD in the world and for using the Zendrum to do it.


ZenChat / Re: Had a session yesterday. go me. ::grins::
« on: January 19, 2007, 06:07:52 AM »
Attaboy JAAY!

I keep preaching about the practical aspects-
Folks like you keep proving me right!


ZenChat / Re: Simple Logic and Ergonomics
« on: January 19, 2007, 05:22:03 AM »
I don't think "trivial" is the word I would use since we haven't had to change anything in ten years to stay ahead of the curve. The original patent that you posted for everyone to view was based on what we had at the time in 1993 when we applied for it- Radio Shack triggers "shock-mounted" on the body with Velcro. Yes, the Zendrum trigger design is also protected by other means since 1995, when Kim had the idea. What Pyrate is asking about is a software upgrade chip replacement. Our engineer Chris DeHaas is still working on that. Stay tuned, folks. It's coming.

Music / Re: Random Zendrum
« on: January 18, 2007, 07:24:07 PM »
Cool Geo,
Sometimes the best thing you can do is flush your preconceptions and start over from a clean slate.
I like laying my ZX across my lap and playing double overhand style sitting down just to free my mind from 15 years of repetitive practice and gigs standing up.
When you stop thinking and start reacting to what you hear instead, you go to the heart of creative satisfaction MUCH quicker!
I love getting the chance to stretch musically and explore without boundaries.
Rock on!

ZenChat / Simple Logic and Ergonomics
« on: January 18, 2007, 09:30:05 AM »
Hey Everybody,

A question has come up that I'd like to address here:

Our old friend Rick Geragi ("Rico"), a ZX Zendrummer for almost 10 years, recently got an LT and asked this question:
"What was the reasoning behind the layout of the Laptop as far as the placement positions and size of the buttons? For the ZX as well?"

In order to answer this question I had to go back and think about how Kim and I worked on this for several years, 1991-1993, handing our one Zendrum prototype back and forth between us for a week or so at a time. We had to play it in different group situations to work out some technique and amplification issues, the same issues every new Zendrum owner has to work out today.

Take a look at the history page first...that's the first ZX prototype.
In the original layout the colors indicate left/right hand sound assignments in my first mental picture.
The trick has always been to have the ride or hihat with snare to one side and kick to the other, for both hands. This makes a running 16th pattern simple as my hands naturally and ergonomically fall on complimentary things. That's what makes it so easy for me to "overplay" the kick drums without pedals, too. There was a video that the Silverman Brothers did ten years ago that illustrated this technique quite well. Their video inspired David Kuckherman to develop a similar technique that he now demonstrates in slow motion in his video on the Zendrum site Downloads Page. It's easy to see how this simple concept can be elaborated on when you add in basic rudiments with the fingers. Just a triplet with two fingers on one hand and one on the other can be endlessly varied upon and practiced to develop fluid, seamless, and effortless chops.

My sound layout for the ZX is represented as the General MIDI drum map on factory Set Up 15. That's how I've always laid the fingering out, even though I've done it with the Set Up 1 C pentatonic scale and assigned the corresponding sounds on the drum module side instead. This layout is what I usually ship ZX Zendrums defaulted to, for a starting point.

I can play a simple Kick/Snare/Ride pattern just by shading my right palm back and forth, or use first & second fingers on my left hand for Kick/snare and keep the 8ths with my right hand with slapping kick/w left/right crash accents. It seems like the looser I play, the better everything feels and I don't sound like a drum machine. THAT'S the point.

The only physical change in the ZX trigger layout was making four of the smaller triggers on the face large ones instead now...just less empty space on the face. I've always used those three triggers in a row as ride/bell/crash and shade my hand around to "manually" crossfade as one large "cymbal pad array".

The LT was the direct result of all the feedback that came from getting the ZX's out there over our first five years:
Can you make a leftie?
Can you make it more like a keyboard for melodic playing?
Can you make it fit more compactly in my percussion rig?
Can you make it sit next to my computer keyboard/mixing board/turntable?
Can you make it fit on a standard snare stand instead of the Gibraltar base with your custom stand top?
Can you make it fit inside the rails of a wheelchair and be more adaptable for physically challenged folks?

The answer to all these questions was YES, and the first production LT was made in 2000.

The physical size of the LT was determined by the standard wheelchair rails at 18" wide.
We knew that hardly anyone had ever used the external trigger input on the ZX, so on the LT that became the 25th, second octave high note trigger.
Putting the sustain button in the center allowed access with either hand.
The LT never had an on/off switch because there was no place to put it where you wouldn't accidentally turn it off. We discontinued the switch on the ZX when Chris deHaas started putting one on his battery boxes. We had had some problems on the early ZX's (before the rubber feet were added) with the switch getting "bumped" off when the instrument was set down. It's one less thing to worry about onstage now: when it's plugged in, it's on.

In the LT the space is as small as we could physically get the electronic components inside. The trigger size and spacing followed naturally and organically. We could have made them all small, but we felt it needed something to break into easily recognizable patterns that you could "feel" without looking. I apply my same left/right triad of kick/hat/snare on both wings of the LT. I use two triggers for each tom tom. That's the way most software is laid out anyway for playing drums on a keyboard and it lets the samples play through better than doubling MIDI notes.

I do not have my fingering layout as a default in the LT. Instead it is shipped defaulted to Set Up 1 C pentatonic scale.

So far, I'd say John Emrich has the most comprehensive technique going on the LT, wearing it with a strap for drumming and using it on a stand for melodics. Study his videos as well, both here on the Zendrum site Downloads Page and on the BFD site. He's also using FAT KAT pedals for both feet. He's another long-time Zendrummer like Rico, another one is Tom Roady, making this transition from ZX to LT. I'm sure like every other Zendrummer, each will come up with their own variations of technique and application, and layouts.

I hope this helps explain some of the thought processes that have gone into the development of the Zendrum so far.
Thank you all for asking the questions.


ZenChat / Re: How to Disable the Sustain Switch
« on: December 19, 2006, 08:01:23 PM »
Toggle right to PL,
toggle 0 to 1.
Polarity is now reversed.
Switch is now a "kill" instead of sustain.
Hope this helps,

« on: December 04, 2006, 08:55:13 AM »
Hey Kunky,
Welcome to the Techno-Tribe.
If you need an older manual we can send it via email for you to print.
Please contact support@zendrum.com and let us know if you need anything else.
We like to update our files to show your ownership and keep track of our instrument's travels as they occasionally "change hands".
Thanks, and ENJOY!

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