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ZenChat / Re: What my Zendrum has done for me.
« on: April 15, 2010, 07:53:05 PM »
Also following with great interest. I think my TD-10 wll not work with the foot pedal though. I tried looking it up and it seems that the TD-10 does not respond to cc#7. Anyone know this for a fact tho??

PS: I am on vacation in FL at the moment. I have sent my zendrum for 'major surgery', Dave has emailed me and it is on it's way back home! It'll arrive before me, then I have 2 days to reset all my parameters before a practice one week from today, then a gig the following night.

I had the Midijet wireless installed, the upgrade to the Z4 board, a volume control knob installed, and 6 new pads added, set up like Jer's. (Thanks Jer!)
I am very anxious to get home next week and start playing!! I'll let you all know how it's going as I progress.

Media / Re: Call for Live Performance videos!
« on: April 10, 2010, 08:50:51 PM »
Here's a few from one of the bands I play in, Classic R&R, Oldies, etc. This is the Fuzzy Side Band.


There are more on my channel, if you want to check them out. This is more of a very loose, totally fun, garage band type group. Musically not very polished but we always have a good time.

I am also playing with a different group, called "Red Eye Flight". No videos made yet that are posted, but we do have some audio at our website. This is acoustic electric eclectic... "a mix of americana, folk-country pop-rock, new country, damned if I know what else", lol!
This is a fairly new venture for me, but I really like it a lot. We should have some videos in the next month or so. I am listed on the website but my bio has not yet been posted. The 4 tunes that you can hear on the first page were all recorded with me dubbing in the zendrum after the initial recordings were done musically. Then the vocals were added. Sometimes the music stops after the first 10-20 sec, but if you hit play again, it'll play thru. I am still learning the tunes in the setlist, once I feel comfortable playing, then I will add some harmonies vocally. They want my deep voice, lol!


ZenChat / Re: Zendrum Layout
« on: April 10, 2010, 07:55:18 PM »
I really like what is going on with this thread. Nice going !! Cannot wait for this to come together. Thanks.


Me too! Thumper

Me three!


Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: April 05, 2010, 09:58:56 PM »

 I was checking out the vids on your group. Very talented players. Good music. Your bass player? - - - - - >
He is fabulous. I was watching him do a bass solo on a fretless model, way high on the neck... man, that was something!
Loved the sax and the lead guitar also, and of course your zendrumming and melodic use of the instrument. Cool stuff.


Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: April 05, 2010, 07:58:22 PM »
Pyrate: " Don't blame BFD2 for me troubles with it.  BFD is a great program.  The trouble is that I am used to the TD-20 and how easy that was to set up.  This computer stuff is a bit daunting for an Olde Man of the Sea like meself."
Ah yes, I know the feeling, lol! No I wasn't blaming BFD or you, just making a comment. Right now, the Roland TD-10, like your TD-20, is like apair of comfortable jeans. To change to anything else would require lots more time, regardless of what I switched to. So the question is whether or not I can find the time... oh, of course....  and the cash!

Jer: "No, just 2 Zendrums... ZX and LT.  Don't be jealous... it's not 'cuz I have lots of cash, it's 'cuz I have lots of DEBT.  I should be more prudent.  It's a weakness!"
I know that feeling!  My ZX goes for surgery this week, upgrading to the Z4 chip, wireless box, some additional pads, and a volume control knob. And I still need to consider a macbook, and either BFD2 or SD 2.2, plus whatever I would need to hook them all from the ZX to the PC to the PA...I'm so confused?!?!

Thanks Rob for the additional imput as well.

Talk to you all soon. I am going on vacation and hope to have the new Z4 back awaiting my arrival when I get home on 4/20. I had a gig set up for May 1st, but in the last week we booked another gig for April 23rd. I have a lot of work to do when I get home!

Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: April 04, 2010, 02:16:29 PM »
Oh yeah... Jer says: "Current Rig:  Maple/Purpleheart/Maple Zendrum ZX (Z4), Purple Fade Zendrum LT (Z4), MidiJet Pro wireless, MalletKat, TrapKat, MacBook Pro (BFD2, Ableton Live), MOTU UltraLite, Aphex 207 preamp, DBX DriveRack, 2 Bose L1 systems, 2 Mackie 115 powered subs, Roland FC300 foot controller, Korg Kaoss Pad"

Dude! What IS all that?!?! 3 zendrums?!?! 2 bose systems. damn... I am jealous! 


Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: April 04, 2010, 02:07:02 PM »
Rob, Thanks for the details man.  The SD software sounds really great, and obviously the exp packs add a lot of options. I appreciate the comparisons and ease of setting it up you talked about. Pyrate has had some difficulties with BFD2, so I was wondering if one is easier than the other. At the moment I am likely going to stick with the Roland TD-10 for a while. Simply because, I am upgrading to the Z4 chip, and going wireless, and adding some pads and a volume control knob. That'll set me back a bit. The music fund is taking a big hit. I need to play a few more gigs, save my pennies, and fund my kitty so I can upgrade to a better sound. Right now, BFD or SD will have to wait for a little while.
Are you at the point where you can use the pc and software as easily as the roland module... especially when gigging?

Jer, thanks for the opinion, BFD vs SD and the modules. Do you find you can easily unpack and set up the pc, etc, like the roland module? My concern is ease of packing/unpacking. Right now my trips in and out are minimal, and my set up time is like 10 minutes. I like the idea of sounding light years better, but I don't really want the extra hassles possibly associated with dragging more stuff, and hooking everything up. Is it pretty much equal? (PC and software vs module).


Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: March 30, 2010, 03:42:22 PM »
Ahhh, pocket master!, and *Arrrgh!* hi Pyrate!

Wow, great answers Rob, thanks. I did some research on the net and found out more about superior drummer from Toontrack. Sounds really sweet. Question#1 : Can you get melodic instrument notes from that, like piano, bells, etc, or is it strictly percussion? My TD-10 has different parts built in (similar to the TD-20) and I am just now starting to figure them out. I'd sure like to hear the difference between the SD 2.2 and the TD-10.
Q #2: Which expansion packs did you opt for? In considering switching over to SD, it means a fairly expensive investment, in a new MacBook, the SD software, several exp packs, and a way to tie everything together! (with the Roland TD-10 I just plug the pin in from the zendrum and I play!). I 'm not too imtimidated with learning a new program, but trying to piece it all together, and make sure I don't add to my gear so that it takes me longer to set up and tear down. I kinda enjoy being the first guy ready to go! What do you use to hook the zendrum to the pc, is that the
Looks like it is user friendly from what you've said.
Q#3: Is there a signicficant difference in the sound quality from the TD-6 to SD software? I wonder if it is still as significant from the TD-10?

Pyrate, I was with another zendrummer last night and he and I were comparing notes TD-10 vs TD-20. We both agreed that for ease of use, the Rolands are the way to go. I agree from what you say, and others, the software seems to give better realistic sound.
So you having used the TD-20 and BFD2.... and perhaps others can chime in here as well........ is the sound SO significantly different as to make people in the crowd sit up and take notice, or is it something pretty much only noticable by the musicians that come to see/hear you play? I would love a more realistic brush snare, crash cymbals, and even a better ride cymbal... but at what expense? Do I sacrifice portability and ease of setting up to get a little better sound, or is the sound so hugely better that it's worth the extra time??
Thanks alll! Rand

Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: March 25, 2010, 09:42:25 PM »
A few other questions....
~  I assume you hooked the guitar volume pedal up to the zendrum?
~ I see you list Garage Band, Superior Drummer and a Roland module... do you use them all, or are you cycling thru, and finding better results as you move along?

I use a Roland TD-10. It seems to give me everything I need, and it's very simple to set up and play. It looks to me like a lot of zendrummers are using PC's and software related packages. Is there a significant difference, is simpler (Roland TD-10) sometimes better and sometimes not??

BTW, I like your tune "Miracles and Raindrops".... is that yours?? Really mellow and smooth.....


Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: March 25, 2010, 07:51:50 PM »
Note the greatest photo, but you can see the CC knob I use for volume here:
Thanks, I "think" I see it!
Page 167 of your TD-10 manual (http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/1811143/TD-10_eG.pdf) lists which CCs (control change) it responds to.  It would appear that the TD-10 does not support CC#7, at least in it's unexpanded form.  I would try it anyways as #7 is a pretty rudimentary function and it may just be that the manual is wrong (wouldn't be the first time).  Also if you have an expanded TD-10, they may have added that feature.
I see that in the manual on pg 167, for sequencer. I also see it on page 165, for percussion, and it doesn't seem to support it. I do have the expanded version of the TD-10, but I don't know how I would try it to see if #7 is recognized. What exactly IS #7 ? Is that the Note # I would assign to a pad, to see if volume is recognized?? Wow, there is so much about MIDI I don't know.... *sigh*.

Tech Help / Re: Volume Control Pedal
« on: March 22, 2010, 07:58:18 PM »

When you get the Z4 upgrade, have David install a CC knob on the back.  I have one on mine that I use to control MIDI volume and it's fantastic.
So, what is a "cc" knob, and how does it work? I am hoping to Chat with David in the next few days and get my zendrum to him in the next few weeks.
BTW, the CC number for volume is #7 and yes, the TD20 supports it. Does the TD-10?


Tech Help / Re: Piano/Bells, etc
« on: March 21, 2010, 07:32:42 PM »
Hey Bob, long time!

We play at Tinkers Friday night 3/26, so if you are hanging around come on down. I'll buy you a Smithwick's, and we can chat. You certainly can strap on my Zendrum and play a few tunes too, if you like. There may be a few gigs in the future that I cannot be there for, so if you want to sit in and debut, mayhaps the gents will take your info for future gigs, seeing as how they are accustomed to a Zendrummer already!
Shoot me an email if you like. rand@torman.net (I think I have yours also, I'll have to check).

Coolness prevails! I hope you can come by!

ZenChat / Re: What's in the oven?
« on: March 21, 2010, 05:57:50 PM »

Sweet!!! I have a space wedged between my family room and the garage that I call "home". Its a maze of drum parts and bits, books (I read alot!), Triumph car parts (err, another hobby, taking up the garage space!). It would be great to check out your space, especially the lights! Can you post some pics (photobucket?).

 I am actually going to start selling all my V drum equipment on Ebay so I can get the Z3 updated to the Z4 and get the wireless option.

I am blown away by your space, your drums, and your wife!!! (my wife is also extremely easygoing about all my hobbies, so long as I keep some open time for  her!).

Music / Re: Who's Your Daddy
« on: March 07, 2010, 07:31:25 PM »
Thanks for that detail, much appreciated. I was trying to write and tell you my setup, but the forum is not working right for me. Somehow when I type, as soon as I fill the window and my words go below the bottom of the page, I get the entire paragraph "jumping" up as I type, so I can briefly see the letters I am typing, then the paragraph drops down below the bottom of the window once again. I can't really see what I am typing as the words go below the screen. Once that issue gets resolved I'll write more, but for now I am confined to whatever fits in the window I can see! I am going to play with my zendrum tonight and see how your setup goes when I plug it into one of my setups. Should be fun to try it out.

ZenChat / Re: List of midi note numbers and pitches
« on: March 07, 2010, 08:55:56 AM »

Great! That will help when I try and set up my Zdrum to a melodic program. I am going to try this later tonight.
Thanks for the info.

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