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Tech Help / Re: Newbie ZX owner with TD-20 note mapping issue
« on: February 15, 2007, 01:40:15 PM »
David Haney confirmed that I would have to completely remap the TD-20's MIDI assignments if I were to take advantage of the ZD's velocity crossfade.  He then suggested that I handle the function in my TD-20 module vs. ZD.   He felt pretty sure that there is a way to get two sounds with different velocity, but I scoured my manual and cannot find any remote reference to such a capability.  I searched VDrums and the internet, but didn't come up with anything useful. 

....unfortunately,  there is no way to do that in the TD-20,  since the module is "COSM" based,  it is supposed to get the "nuances" of each individual sound,  but you can't crossfade 2 different sounts....

Also, does anyone know if "layering" sounds (having one trigger sound two different patches) is possible on the TD-20?   I thought I had that capability on my TD-8, but I don't see it anywhere on the TD-20 unless it can be accomplished somehow using the Pattern feature (e.g. Tap?).

....you can do this on the TD-20 actually,  with the tap feature  it reads as combining a kick/cymbal sound,  but you can do it for any two sounds....  see my thread here:



Music / Final Mixes on Snow days!
« on: February 15, 2007, 10:55:11 AM »
Here's a tune that was posted long ago,  prior to my band having a singer fully in place.   It was lost I suppose when the old site got invaded--  and since we have our singer on it now,  and it's fully mixed,  I thought I would re-post it.  This was not played on the Zendrum,  but triggered form my v-drum kit.  I'm still trying to learn this one on the Zen-- have most of it down,  but there's a few fills that are still rather shaky when trying to pull them of on the Zen...



Music / Re: Zendrum/BFD/New tune
« on: February 15, 2007, 10:13:16 AM »
.....nothing like that call at 4:45 AM saying---  don't bother going to work today....

I don't have a Zendrum, but... / Re: New to the Forum
« on: February 13, 2007, 03:18:22 PM »
I was just kidding ya,  although I was kinda hopin you were Geddy Lee!!   

Yes,  I'm a Zendrummer,  been doing it over 2 years (I think) now..  I love it.  It's an awesome tool that can be used for anything you are willing to put the time into.  I personally have used it on Show (theatre gigs) alot,  In my Rock band, subbing for drummers in  cover bands (yikes....  but they pay...), as a teaching device to be right near my student,  and even a few little gigs that are their own genre..  ( I would call them "Jazz" gigs,  but they really aren't quite jazz...)

   I think if you take the plunge,  you will be incredibly happy with your decision to do so.  There's a TON of possibilities from the Zendrum---  from playing drumset (watch some John Emerick or Rob Silverman stuff),  to triggering samples,  to playing percussion/hand drum/etc thing (watch some David K. stuff),  all the way to playing piano/xylo/marimba things.....  it's really endless in what you can make it for yourself.    Hope you decide to go for it,  and any questions you have--  this is a great place to get them answered--  I know the forum helped me out alot when  Istarted...


I don't have a Zendrum, but... / Re: New to the Forum
« on: February 13, 2007, 02:24:05 PM »
... welcome!    Hey,  isn't Geddy Lee's real name Gary Lee??   hmmmmm...  we might have a bass player lurking around here...   ;)

Music / Zendrum/BFD/New tune
« on: February 12, 2007, 12:29:14 PM »
Well,  I got together with my Guitar player to try out BFD (I think he has the "standard") version right now---  it's very "room" sounding-- we have to get the plug ins so we have a bit of a better "close" mic sound---  but we really did this more as a project to see what recording/Zendrum/Logic can do....   BFD even at it's lowest levels really just makes the "Modules" sound un-fullfilling...   I have the TD-20 (and 12...),  and man,  these sounds in BFD are awesome.   We'll definitely be using the BFD for the next album (guess we should get this first one out first,  huh!!??)   Here's a rather raw recording of the tune we played around with....  (it's a new one for us-- already heading in a different direction!)

(pulled the link till it is recorded again for real!!)

ZenChat / Re: Assigning a Kick Sound to Cymbal TD-12 / 20
« on: February 07, 2007, 08:57:27 AM »
No Problem,  anything to help out some fellow Zendrummers!


ZenChat / Assigning a Kick Sound to Cymbal TD-12 / 20
« on: February 06, 2007, 10:24:21 PM »
This question was asked to me a couple of times,  so I figured I would post it here and it can be out there for those who might be interested --  There's a way of "layering" a kick sound (or any sounds really) on the TD-12 or TD-20,  so you can get a "kick" along with your crash sound which you play (or should I say,  I play) 90-some percent of the time anyway (again,  really any sound layered with any sound)-- --  speaking of anyway --  here ya go all you fellow TD'ers --


The Tap feature is a cool way to add a kick to your cymbal sounds w/o hogging up another trigger --  and opens a few doors to the possibilities of putting cymbals where you want them on your Zen--  as oppesd to always having to be right next to a kick drum….

   Ok--  here you go:

  Hit PATTERN > then NEW (F5),  then FUNCTION (F3)- (lets just say its patter 155) then I name it, then exit.

Hit SET UP (F1), Set Pattern length to 1, the hit the record button.  I set the quantize to and 8th note, then when ready hit the blinking green play button.  I hit a kick drum on the downbeat after the 4 count off clicks….   Then hit STOP.  Be precise in recording it right on the downbeat.

  Then I go back and hit FUNCTION (F3),  and double check it is still on Pattern length = 1.  (not sure if that even matters,  but I do it.)

Then Hit TYPE (F2),  and set play type to TAP (important!)

Then go back out (hit KIT), ,  then hit INST. Button, turn off the HEAD & Rim feature (F5) so it isn’t hi-lighted)—then hit whatever cymbal you want to assign the pattern to.

Then hit CONTROL (F4),  and assign PadPtn (remember 155 as our example) or whatever pattern you used…..    Viola --  you should have a kick sound along with that cymbal!!   


ZenChat / Re: Maryland Get Together
« on: February 06, 2007, 01:04:46 PM »

I bought a couple of the early VXpression kits for the TD-20.  Once I got "under the covers," I soon realized that they are just tweaked sounds already in the module. 

    I've got to agree with Ken --  I bought the early VExpressions that came out for the TD-20--   and It's really just tweaking of the module.   Don't get me wrong--  they do a nice job of it.  But if you are a tweaker yourself,  then I think you can get similar  (or even better) results that suit your needs.   For the non-tweaker--    I think the Vexpressions is a really great option.

    I think I am giving BFD a test drive tonight--  which means-  uh-oh..   probably going to be a movement over to the sortware side of things if things go the right way.  I've been really checking out/studying "the Freddy" receptor,  and I am just so intrigued by the BFD/sampled sounds...   

   to Dr. Shark --   thanks for the compliment and hopefully at some point our/fellow Zendrummers schedules will allow us to be playing/sharing info with each other at some point.

ZenChat / Re: Maryland Get Together
« on: February 05, 2007, 12:53:22 PM »
Man,  I would have loved to meet with you guys  (and particularly with John E.--  I'm so tempted by the fruits of the software based sounds)....  but I'l be in Vermont that weekend...   keep us posted as to how it goes/went,  and when another one might come together!


Tech Help / Re: zendrum/td20/muse connection question
« on: December 17, 2006, 10:48:52 AM »
Not That I would be able to afford this right now anyway,  but is this "receptor set-up" by Johncomplete and available yet??    It is has me very interested in getting into the software side...

ZenChat / Re: Receptor issues
« on: September 12, 2006, 05:50:09 PM »
Can someone repost this thread in English??  ;)

I don't have a Zendrum, but... / Re: Just Ordered My Piece of Zen
« on: June 16, 2006, 12:34:18 PM »
Yup.  I remember how long that "waiting" time period felt...   don't distress,  it will get there...

, is there an easy/inexpensive way to set some of the z's pads to trigger bass guitar tones, while using the rest for drum kit sounds??

      Just to keep this going with how to do this on other modules---  you can do this on Rolands.   Although you can't layer sounds,  you can trigger "patterns",  and they could be bass notes/whatever sounds or sounds you wants.  and you can have a "drum" sound on that same pad too,  so it is almost like layering.   If you didn't want a drum sound on that pad,  you would just lower the internal mixer for that pad  (the drum sound assigned to that pad),  and only the "pattern" would sound....   

ZenChat / Re: Roland Modules
« on: June 13, 2006, 07:54:16 AM »
I'm a "module" guy at this point.   I have the Roland Td-20,  and the TD-12, (I only use one at a given time) and with tweaking you can get very good sounds out of them.  I LOVE the ease of set-up factor.   I'm intrigued by the Muse Receptor,  but I haven't had "enough" of a reason to go that route as of yet.    Like Pyrate --  I can literally be set up in 5 minutes.   And even better than that is breaking down in 5 minutes!!

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